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Suspicious plane debris at the Pentagon...

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Last updated:  12/30/2006

If this piece of debris is from Flight 77, why doesn't it have any burn or scrape marks on it after it supposedly exploded into the hardened wall of the Pentagon at over 500 mph?

 

(Photo source:  geoffmetcalf.com [Alt:  renovation.pentagon.mil; hereisnewyork.org])

Click pic to see the Pentagon security video page.

"MCINTYRE: ...The plane hit the Pentagon at a 45-degree angle, and was reduced to tiny fragments by the impact. The biggest piece of fuselage that could be found outside the Pentagon was only about three feet long." -CNN (03/07/02)

 
"At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour." -9/11 Commission
 
 

 

 

Why is this piece of debris so far away from the point of impact and all by itself?

 

(Photo source:  rockymountainnews.com)

(Photo source expired:  army.mil [Archived at:  WayBack Machine])

(Photo source unknown.  Found here: forums.therandirhodesshow.com)

Click photo for hi-res. 

Click photo for hi-res. 

(Photo source unknown.  Found here: pentagonresearch.com)

Excerpts from an interview with Colonel John F. Roser, who was commander of the Rader Army Health Clinic at Ft. Myer, VA.
"You could see where the plane had gone in. It sheared off some of the light poles and those were on the ground. There were some plane parts around." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

 

 

 

Couldn't this piece of debris and all the rest of the "plane debris" shown below have been planted?

 

(Photo source:  niftythings.org)

(Photo source:  hereisnewyork.org)

 

 

 

Some people claim that this piece of debris is the "n" of the American Airlines' logo and that it is indeed "authentic," but if it did come from an AA plane, couldn't it have come from another wrecked AA plane and how did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?

 

(Photo source:  rense.com)

Researchers Eric Bart and Kjell Roald think this mystery debris, if authentic, would more likely be the "e" or "c" than the "n."  They too question if it is indeed authentic.

Notice that the above pic has this piece of "n" debris coming from the starboard (right) side of the plane which is the opposite side from where this piece landed!  (Photo source:  rense.com)

The photo on the right shows where the "n" on the AA logo (red arrows) would approximately be on the scaled B757 and the yellow arrow points the the approximate location of where this "n" debris was photographed.

(Photo source:  defenselink.mil)

 

 

 

If all these big pieces of debris came from Flight 77, shouldn't there be a lot of smaller pieces of debris scattered are them and if they are light enough to carry away by hand, then couldn't they have been planted by hand?

 

Notice that the debris these men are removing are small and light enough for them to remove by hand.  (Photo source expired:  army.mil [Archived at:  WayBack Machine])

Note that the piece of debris in the top right corner of both of these pics is the same piece of debris.  (Photo source:  hereisnewyork.org)

 

 

 

Again, why doesn't this piece of debris have any burn or scrape marks on it after it supposedly exploded into the Pentagon at over 500 mph and couldn't it have been planted there?

 

Notice that the debris this man is removing is small and light enough for him to remove by hand.  (Photo source expired:  eeplaza.com [Archived at:  WayBack Machine])

 

 

 

Couldn't any of the few pieces of un-burnt plane debris seen at the Pentagon have come from another AA plane that had previously crashed in which the government would have access to it's debris?

American Airlines Flight 1420; June 1, 1999
Aircraft: MD-82; Little Rock, AR
- airdisaster.com

(See also a search of previously crashed American Airlines planes at:  AirDisaster.com.)

AA Flight 1420 (Photo source:  airdisaster.com)

Notice that the AA logo is shredded off the port side of this crashed AA plane and all the debris in un-burnt.

 
 

 

 

Is this piece of debris an engine from Flight 77?  If it is, then why isn't it more damaged than it is from supposedly slamming into the reinforce wall of the Pentagon at over 500 mph?

 

Engine part that some say is supposedly from Flight 77.  Notice how small it is next to the FEMA worker's leg.  (Photo source:  fema.gov.  Other similar photos:  4411, 4415, )

Aircraft: Boeing 757-223
Location: Washington, D.C., USA
Registration: N644AA
Flight Number: 77
Engine Manufacturer: Rolls Royce
Engine Model: RB211-535E4B

(Source: airdisaster.com)

"The impacting airplane was a Boeing 757-200 aircraft, originally delivered in 1991...The two engines were manufactured by Rolls-Royce and had 44,000 lb of combined thrust." -Pentagon Building Performance Report [pg. 12]

Compare to this crashed engine which is similar to the engine that of the ones found on Flight 77...

Flight 226:  Engine Manufacturer: Rolls Royce , Engine Model: RB211-535E4

09/14/1999- Britannia Airways Boeing 757-204 crashes in Gerona, Spain.  (Photo source:  airdisaster.com)

 

Notice how big the Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4 engines that power the Boeing 757 are compared to this person underneath it.  (Left photo source:  rolls-royce.com)

Photograph of airplane parts in the Pentagon after Flight 77 crashed into the building. - RCFP [hi-res]

Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4 (Graphic source:  airwar.ru)

(Graphic source:  rolls-royce.com)

 

 

 Is that mystery engine part from one of these engines?

Northrop Grumman Global Hawk - Rolls-Royce AE 3007 / alt. pic

Boeing CALCM (AGM-86C) - Williams F107-WR-101 / alt. pic

 
 

An engine supposedly from one of the two planes that crashed in the WTC 1 and 2...

Flight 175:  Engine Manufacturer: Pratt & Whitney , Engine Model: JT9D-7R4D

Flight 11:  Engine Manufacturer: General Electric , Engine Model: CF6-80A2

 

 

(Photo source expired:  escape.com)

 

 

 

Is one of these pieces of debris the "green metal" mentioned in the news report below?  Of the debris on the left, why doesn't it have any burn marks?

 

(Photo source:  hereisnewyork.org)

A Pentagon worker holds what is believed to be a piece of the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.  (Photo source:  army.mil)

''There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,'' she said (Judy Biggert (R-Ill.). -Sun Times

 

 

 

Is this large piece of debris from an aircraft?  Why is there no smaller pieces of debris scattered around this one?

 

(Photo source:  hereisnewyork.org)

 

 

 

 

Did these pieces come from Flight 77?

Source:  pentagonresearch.com

 

 

 

Is this one of the APU doors from a Boeing 757?  Why isn't there any smaller pieces scattered around it?

 

(Photo source expired:  house.gov/berkley [Archived at:  WayBack Machine])

Excerpts from an interview with Dr. Duong Nguyen, COL, MC (retired), who was a physician at the Rader Army Health Clinic, Ft. Myer, VA.
"I rushed through Henderson Hall (a close-by Marine barracks) to the Pentagon. Along the way, debris of an airplane wing was on the grass." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

 

 

 

A popular "debunking photo" that supposedly shows flight 77 debris in it.  Can you even recognize any plane debris in this pile?

 

(Photo source expired:  jccc.afis.osd.mil)

 

 

 

The piece of debris on the left is supposedly the "C" of the logo on an AA plane and the photo on the right is thought to be the "N," "E," or "C" which was mentioned above.  Isn't it just a little too coincidental that two of the very few pieces of plane debris found at the crash scene are pieces with part of an AA logo on it?

 

(Photo source:  community.webshots.com)

(Photo source:  geoffmetcalf.com)

Excerpts from an interview with Lieutenant Colonel Frank Bryceland, who was Assistant Director of Education Programs for the Office of the Secretary of Defense.
"We could not see the plane. The only thing that we saw was a piece of the front skin with the “C” from American Airlines by the little heliport control tower. There was a fire truck there that was burnt on one side, and a car, and a tree, all burnt. But, still, you could not see the plane." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

"Meanwhile, only unidentifiable objects of metal and glass were scattered over the Pentagon lawn, Rothschadl said. The fire engine used for protecting the Pentagon was incinerated.
"There weren't seats or luggage or things you find in a plane. There was nothing left -- it was obliterated or fireballed," she said. "And there was a foot of water on the lawn. We are running around in the water, not even thinking of the jet fuel in the water. We were just doing our job."
A line of about 30 FBI agents swept the lawn back and forth, collecting evidence. FBI agents confronted Rothschadl, noting the ban on media coverage and demanding to know the reason for her presence.
"I was a little bit nervous that the tapes would be confiscated, especially being alone on the outside," she said.
During her video shooting, Rothschadl noticed a piece of metal against the side of the Pentagon. "It was part of the plane, and the metal was shiny silver with the red letter "C". It was obvious that it was an American plane," she said." -Press & Dakotan (09/11/03)

 

 

 

 

Perhaps another piece of debris, but again, why are there no burn or scrape marks on it?

Source:  pentagonresearch.com

 

 

 

Is this plane debris on the Helipad or just building debris?

 

(Photo source:  hereisnewyork.org)

(Lost source of this photo.  Please email if found.)

Excerpts from an interview with Lieutenant Colonel Bernadette Close, who was Special Projects Officer, Department of Nursing, DeWitt Army Community Hospital, Ft. Belvoir, VA.
"But we did go right up by the helipad almost. You could see pieces of the airplane sitting there, and it looked like some cushions or some pieces." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

 

 

 

Debris supposedly from the nose of Flight 77.  If it is, what happened to the rest of the nose that supposedly punched this hole out the size and shape of itself and why isn't it burnt?

 

(Photo source expired:  army.mil [Archived at:  WayBack Machine])

 

 

 

 

Of the alleged 757 rim found outside the punch-out hole in the C ring, is it impossible that it could have been planted and where are the other two rims from the plane?

Source:  911 Reality

Source:  pentagonresearch.com

 

 

 

Is this the shattered cockpit window of a 757?

Source:  pentagonresearch.com

"MCINTYRE: ...The only other recognizable feature can be seen in this exclusive CNN photograph, the shattered cockpit window." -CNN (03/07/02)

 

 

 

Another popular photo that shows debris supposedly from Flight 77.  Of the bottom left photo, if that is plane debris next to the control tower, how did it get there when the control tower would be blocking the blast path of the plane and were don't any of these pieces look burnt?

 

(Photos source:  defenselink.mil [HiRes])

 

 

 

Now what's the odds of this happening?

 

"Driving on a highway adjacent to the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, Penny Elgas stopped as she saw a passenger jet descend, clip a light pole near her, and then crash into the Pentagon. Arriving home, Elgas found this plane fragment in the back seat of her car (she theorizes that it dropped through the open sunroof). Feeling that it was her patriotic duty to preserve the fragment as a relic, she crafted a special box and lined it with red, white, and blue material." -Smithsonian

 
 

 

 

Could this debris be from the drone aircraft or could it have been planted in Mrs. Elgas's car?

 

If this piece of debris is from Flight 77, shouldn't it be with the FBI as evidence of a crime?

This piece of a Boeing-757, American Airlines Flight 77, was torn from the plane as it clipped a light pole on approach to the Pentagon. All fifty-three airplane passengers, six crew members, and five hijackers were killed in the crash.  (Photo source:  Smithsonian)

"The FBI had more than one role. It was responsible for the entire crime scene operation, including evidence gathering and body recovery. That operation engaged more than 700 FBI agents at the Pentagon, assisted by hundreds of people from other organizations." -Arlington County After-Action Report

"The FBI assumed command of the crime scene on Sept. 21." -Arlington County (07/23/02)

 

 

 

Was a plastic Student ID card of two alleged hijackers really found at the Pentagon, resisting being melted enough from the hot fiery explosion caused from Flight 77 crashing 530mph into the building to still be able to read who's name was on it, or was it just planted there, or just said to have been found there?

 

"Sept. 13, 2001. A “Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Student Identity Card” was found in the rubble at the Pentagon with Moqed’s name on it. Forensic examination indicated that it may have been fraudulent. United States Secret Service Forensic Services report for the FBI PENTTBOM investigation regarding the physical examination of forensic science research request, Oct. 10, 2001." - Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel, Chp 2 - 9/11 Commission

 

(Note:  The photo of Moqed and the Student ID are not from the ID mentioned in the article.)

 


"PE00102 - Partial ID card reading ALHAZMI from the Pentagon crash site" - uscourts.gov [Hi-res]

 

 
 

 

 

These pics are supposed to be the landing gear and part of an engine from Flight 77 inside the Pentagon, but the sources for where these pics originally came from are unknown, so there is no way to even know if these pics are even authentic.  But let's just say these two pics are authentic, would it have been impossible for someone to have planted these parts inside the Pentagon before the explosion?

 

Note:  These two photos were posted on Rense.com by Sarah Roberts (spinner2882@yahoo.com), a Pentagon conspiracy debunker.  She claims these photos were taken by VATF-1 workers inside the Pentagon, but she never mentions how/where she got these photos.  Interesting to note that her email name is "spinner!"

"That afternoon, Captain Defina and airport Battalion Chief Walter Hood, as well as other jurisdictions' battalion chiefs, led crews inside with attack lines to fight fires on every floor of the "D" and "E" rings. The aircraft had penetrated all the way to the "C" ring.
"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific." -NFPA Journal (11/01/01)


 

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